For Sale: Reputations. Estate Agents lose the plot on Twitter

July 2, 2009

For Sale: Reputations. Estate Agents lose the plot on Twitter

Each day more businesses are joining the Twitter bandwagon and merrily mistreat this social media channel. They are blinkered and see it as an advertising platform rather than a networking opportunity. Would they go to a networking event and immediately start selling? Remember Habitat UK?

Far from seeking to add to the delightful chatter and discourse on Twitter they seek to SELL SELL SELL! With each and every tweet destined to benefit their businesses alone.

Two local estate agents with offices in West Berkshire who honestly should know better join the guilty ranks and with each spammy tweet they further erode the tarnished reputation of their profession, and the image of their own brand a little bit more.

I discovered the blundering Twitter accounts of Carter Jonas and Chancellors when I was looking for another wicked sort on Twitter - the 'pump and dump' merchant. They follow popular people on Twitter to see if they get followed back. Many people automate this service, particularly when they have thousands of followers, and it is an easy way for the lazy Twitterer to bulk up their numbers and preys on the customary act of reciprocal tw-etiquette that means we try to follow each other.

They try to have many more followers than people they follow to masquerade as popular, like the celebrities or news channels on Twitter and hope people will follow thinking they must be special. So using a tool like Refollow we scrutinise those who we seem to be following, but who are not following us. And get rid of the parasites.

However, today two new accounts I was following caught my eye, @CarterJonas and @ChancellorsEA, both estate agents who cover this area of West Berkshire and much more. Now, Twitter has its foibles, but I know I never followed them manually, which suggests I auto-followed, but how come they are not following me? Curious.

We digress! Each of the Twitter streams of these two estate agents are nothing more than selling properties and offering properties to let, with the odd bit of news (about them) and job offers (with them) thrown in. Who do they think will follow this? Perhaps someone looking for a house? Quite possibly, but by being so selfish about their approach they miss out on the hundreds of followers who might not need a house, or a job, or be interested in their news... but who might know someone who is! If they were enticed to follow, these estate agents networks could really deliver results on Twitter.

Have a look:

Carter Jonas on TwitterChancellors blunder on Twitter

Professionals can do it. Take a look at Charles Lucas & Marshall, a law firm in Newbury who has the Twitter identity of @CLMLawBits. In the last few days they have twittered about Newbury Carnival, Andy Murray at Wimbledon, Retweeted many local people’s own Tweets and occasionally throw in a bit of law. Newbury video production company MWS Media, who Tweet as @MWSMedia2009 get it too and follow the same approach – and of course Morgan PR does.

They understand the need for a social mix – we recommend 80/20 – the majority of your Tweets should not be about you, but about other stuff – add to the debate. Estate Agents could Twitter about town events where they are based, industry news, funny stories about estate agents – and only every now and then offer something selling! If you want to promote 10 properties, you’ll need 40 other Tweets to keep people interested and not feeling exploited.

Hey, I know times are tough for estate agents, but that is no excuse to be sloppy with your brand management – if anything it makes careful use of social media paramount. Of course, they could always ask someone like Morgan PR to help with social media before they need help with crisis management.


Comments

Ant Hodges said...

Right on the button! Jumping cold into something new like Twitter (new if you have never done it before) is like trying to run a marathon without the right mindset or training.

As I point out on my own blog post my own blog post if you are going to jump into social media, you first need to understand that it is about "relationship building"- once you have a bunch of followers that trust what you say, respect you as an expert in your field then they may consider buying when you ask.

Estate agents - get on with giving us hints and tips on how to prepare our houses for sale, what steps can we take to ensure the sale goes through quicker, teach us how to do viewings, tell us what too look out for when we visit a potential new home... then put up a property for sale! We need to see you as 'Expert' before we can trust you with a purchase.

Ant Hodges, 02/07/2009 12:21
www.creativerush.co.uk
www.anthodges.co.uk
www.twitter.com/hodgesant
www.linkedin.com/in/anthodges
Rachael said...

I agree. When companies log on to just sell sell sell they get an immediate unfollow.

Any business on twitter needs to understand that like regular networking it requires cultivating of friendships and discussion, idea generating and to be honest it also requires giving an element of your business away for free.

By just acting as a sole corporate twitter account the followers they do have won't read their tweets and those who are savvy will just block.

They need to understand that by networking in the same manner as you would in the real world you become the "come to guy".

Social media training and management is a must for any company who doesn't quite grasp the concept.

Rachael, 02/07/2009 12:26
www.twitter.com/rachaelblogs
Gary Gorman said...

Hi Nigel,

Great post on relationship building (or lack of it).

Ironically in a niche where people are probably making the biggest investment in their lives the need to establish rapport,trust and demonstrate empathy to potential client should be a given.

However from your examples it seems the last thing estate agents want to do is engage in a two way dialogue (heaven forbid!)

I believe that the most successful people/brands on Twitter are those that continually add value to followers, are genuine and blend the mundane with the profound in a two-way conversation. Seems like there's a long way to go in some businesses! Kind regards Gary http://www.twitter.com/garygorman

Gary Gorman, 02/07/2009 12:30
www.paradigmtraining.co.uk
www.garygorman.wordpress.com
www.twitter.com/garygorman
www.linkedin.com/in/garygorman
Nigel Morgan said...

Thank you Ant, Rachael and Gary,

You all make really good points and add to the debate.

Ant, your advice on what the Estate Agents could be tweeting about is spot on. Mix that with geographically relevant tweets and they will have relevant followers in their hundreds in just a few short months!

Naturally we know we are right with what we say, but to have such esteemed Twitter folk commenting is an honour - and you are all living the dream and being successful by doing that!

Any Twitters visiting? Follow these three for sure!

Nigel Morgan, 02/07/2009 12:46
www.twitter.com/nigel_morgan
www.linkedin.com/in/nigelmorgan
Mark Shaw said...

Great article. Firstly, I always applaud any corporate for actually having a go and trying Twitter. What however I find so amazing, is that so many of them, dont take any advice, speak to some experts, about how to get started with Twitter.

Twitter could offer them so much, but they have to learn the rules of engagement, which are totally different to other forms of matketing. It is not about shouting your message, it is about listening, answering questions, adding value, helping others, and then demonstrating your knowledge and expertise...

Simply using your twitter account, as an outlet for your website is a total waste of time, and will result in very little happening...

best

Mark

Mark Shaw, 02/07/2009 12:48
www.markshaw.biz
www.twitter.com/markshaw
Martin said...

Excellent post which I think throws up another point for sme's and that is to make use of the help and advice on using twitter.

The costs involved are not significant and the help can ensure:

1. You get a decent balance of work and social tweets (it's as easy to forget about your business as it is to become a total spam head)

2. You use your time effectively ( it does take up time after all so the temptation to use that time to just SELL is enormous especially if sales are hard to come by)

I signed up with @NikkiPilkingtontweetmentor course. I've not followed it to the letter but without it I would have given up on twitter or worse been nothing more than a spam case.

cool bananas

Martin

Martin, 02/07/2009 13:00
www.carcare-direct.co.uk
www.carcaredirect.blogspot.com/
www.twitter.com/carcaredirect
www.linkedin.com/in/martinphillips
Emma said...

I agree wholeheartedly with the above. Thank you Nigel, for noticing our efforts in making a good contribution to Twitterland (and for your great advice on it.)

I have always thought that the 60-20-20 Tweeting Ratio is a good rule of thumb, for us as a business and for the businesses and local people that we would chose to follow.

60 % Information (Links, news etc)

20 % Conversation (questions, RT's and replies)

20 % Self-affirmation (Some business, some law and some office gossip)

Using social networking without 'getting it' is really more detrimental than not using it at all. As with all things. If a things worth doing.... at least learn to use it to your best ability.

Emma, 02/07/2009 13:01
www.clmlaw.co.uk
www.twitter.com/clmlawbits
Paul Skinner said...

Hi Nigel,

A great piece!

As someone that has to work with estate agents, I totally agree with you. I have met very few estate agents that are interested in really networking, whether it is online or face-to-face. I honestly believe they think it is for "small" companies, and they are above it all.

You are spot on, that they need to earn people's trust or respect before they sell to them, but when has that ever stopped an estate agent? They must be the most untrusted community in the UK.

I hope you can help teach these guys to learn how to network properly, then maybe the likes of PKS will begin dealing with them.

Regards

Paul

Paul Skinner, 02/07/2009 13:05
www.pks.org.uk
www.pksproperty.wordpress.com
www.twitter.com/pksproperty
www.linkedin.com/in/pksproperty
Claire Shiels said...

What we are saying sounds harsh I know and pretty idealistic. As an ex in-house head of marketing for a chain of rural property agents, I am well aware it's all about finding the time and remembering to keep track of conversations, think of timely, relevant topics and so on, on top of everything else. Not easy.

However, make no bones about it, Twitter is THE tool for making useful contacts very quickly and effectively so you need to get to grips with it if its going to be of any use at all.

Just imagine, you are following 3000 people. All these people do all day long is tell you about what they are selling. Pretty tiring and boring, huh! You just wouldn't bother signing in, would you? It's all about making relationships which, when selling properties, always makes your life easier.

It may be your managing partner has simply told you to sign up and get on with it. However, it would be useful both to the company and yourselves personally, to learn and follow Twitter etiquette and unwritten guidelines (I recommend Nikki Pilkington's cheap and effective Twitter-based handy hints). Do yourself a favour, stop wasting your own time and start making Twitter work for you.

Regards

Claire Shiels

Claire Shiels, 02/07/2009 13:13
www.csm-comms.co.uk
www.claireshiels.wordpress.com
www.twitter.com/claireshiels
www.linkedin.com/in/claireshiels
LifestyleOnline said...

I dedicated this Business Blog : Social Media You asking? then... to you Nigel - Great article.

Well Done Nigel, the Company are lucky to have you onboard :~)

Warm Wishes, Carolyn Williams @ LifestyleOnline

LifestyleOnline, 02/07/2009 13:45
www.lifestyle-online.co.uk
www.lifestyle-online.co.uk/blog/?p=303
www.twitter.com/LifestyleOnline
www.linkedin.com/Carolyn Willimas
Graham Holton said...

Points taken!

You've given us some very useful advice and it will definitely be taken on board.

In our defence, we are new to Twitter - but we do want to learn...

Many thanks,

Graham @ Carter Jonas

Graham Holton, 02/07/2009 13:45
www.carterjonas.co.uk
www.twitter.com/carterjonas
Nikki Pilkington said...

It's easy to think of Twitter as a broadcst medium, and clearly this is what the estate agents you mention are doing. And with people left right and centre promoting 'get 1,000,000 followers in one week!', 'make money on Twitter without trying!' and other dubious schemes, it's not surprising that companies jump on the band wagon.

The sad thing is that we're only going to see more of this on Twitter. Then after that will come the backlash of "Twitter doesn't work", "I didn't sell anything" etc etc etc - from thepeople who misused and abused it.

I say right from the beginning of Tweetmentor - Twitter is about relationships in the same way as networking is - it's just a quicker way to do it. It's not just about plugging your wares, and pointing the finger at 'me, me, me'.

But rather than bemoaning the people who get it wrong, think of it another way. They'll soon give up, and quit - leaving Twitter for those that do make the most of it and use it 'properly'.

Nikki Pilkington, 02/07/2009 13:45
www.nikkipilkington.com/social-media-marketing/tweetmentor-promotion-may-bank-holiday-weekend-only
www.businessontwitter.com
www.twitter.com/nikkipilkington
www.linkedin.com/in/nikkipilkington
Paul Skinner said...

Well done to Graham from Carter Jonas for responding. Lets hope we can teach an old dog eh?

Nikki also makes some good points that these people will give up and quit Twitter, leaving it for those that do use it property. I agree to a degree - the spammers that Nikki mentions are becoming far too rife, however, it is easy to unfollow them. For those that do not know how to use Twitter, I would prefer to help them to understand the potential, use it correctly, and follow them.

Regards Paul

Paul Skinner, 02/07/2009 14:23
www.pks.org.uk
www.pksproperty.wordpress.com
www.twitter.com/pksproperty
www.linkedin.com/in/pksproperty
Mike Samuels said...

I just love the way Nigel turns adversity into advantage even for people he perceives as doing something wrong.

For the small price of some mild admonishment by our PR Guru these two estate agents have achieved far more recognition than if they had just continued churning out the irrelevant tweets everyone would have soon ignored anyway.

Having wondered if this was staged and part of a formulated PR tactic I soon realised this is another example of the generosity and teaching by example of "Mr Morgan".

I know if I was responsible for marketing at either of these agencies I would be beating a path to Nigel's door and repaying his generosity.

Genius.

Mike Samuels, 02/07/2009 15:04
www.medicalphotographer.co.uk
http://photographyinmedicine.wordpress.com/
www.twitter.com/MikeSamuels68
Peter Rollings said...

I agree Mark,

It can be daunting for estate agents to embrace blogs such as Twitter, especially as we are so susceptible to negative press but I started using Twitter a few months ago and it has become an important part of our business.

We want to communicate with our consumers and try to understand how we can improve the service we offer. We have the ability to understand customer sentiments in real time and I am just about to start a #propertyclinic where followers are invited once a week (day/time tbc) to ask me any questions they like about London property and I will answer these as best as I can. I hope this will, in some way, help our buyers and sellers to get some of the answers they are looking for.

Don't get me wrong, I love the fact that our web traffic has increased and that we have successfully recruited using Twitter but it is so much more than that......

Peter Rollings, 02/07/2009 15:22
www.marshandparsons.co.uk
www.marshandparsons.co.uk/about-us/market-comment/
www.twitter.com/marshandparsons
Juswant Rai said...

Hi Nigel,

Great article and very thought provoking I have once again looked at what I have been doing with my social-media. I have been guilty of slipping into bad habits with this medium.

Carter Jonas I'm sure will learn from this experience and maybe re-look at the twitter strategy.

Twitter is a brave new world for many and they will make mistakes when they start and some old hands will slip into bad habits along the way.

Twitter will not work for many people because they are are like those people who come to networking events once sell nothing and then tell everyone it's a useless medium for business. It's an investment of time and energy in building relationships with those that network with you.

Regards Juswant

Juswant Rai, 02/07/2009 16:02
www.berkshirepropertymeet.com
www.twitter.com/juswantrai
www.linkedin.com/in/juswantrai
Sam Elliott said...

I'm surprised that there havn't been more companies mistaking Twitter for an advertising platform.

I was reluctant to join Twitter (and probably wouldn't be on there had Nigel not forced me to!) as it was described to me as Facebook with only the status updates, and I'm sure many businesses are, or were sceptical of the usefulness of such a platform.

It's also not immediately obvious what you should start posting when you've just signed up to Twitter, and so I imagine it's tempting to start off posting the way the above examples have done - simply to advertise.

That said, there's so much stuff on the internet about how to use Twitter correctly, it's perhaps worrying that businesses aren't taking a few minutes to research what they're doing - especially if they're in the important business of selling houses!

Will be interesting to see if they improve now they've seen your blog!

Sam Elliott, 02/07/2009 16:16
www.partlypoliticalbroadcast.co.uk
www.twitter.com/PartlyPolitical
Steve Jones said...

What is probably most concerning is that we are relying on these people to "market" the single most important / expensive asset that we have and they are using what they consider to be advertising media in such a crass fashion.

At best what they are doing is naive and at worst it is destroying their reputation. Although for me the jury is out on twitter (is it a real business building opportunity or is it just more "noise on the line") - I think if you decide to embrace it, you should at least take some effort to properly understand it first.

For Sale Suzuki 850, £2,000 ono! (one sarcastic owner - Ed.)

Steve Jones, 03/07/2009 14:52
www.negotiationexpert.co.uk
www.twitter.com/topnegotiator
www.linkedin.com/in/stevejonesnegotiator
Adrian Higgs said...

Given the generally parlous reputation of the estate agency sector, there's a cracker of an opportunity here.

Any estate agent that can consistently show itself to be genuine, helpful, knowledgeable and industrious will rapidly develop a reputation that will set it miles apart from the rest.

Achieving that will obviously go way beyond Twitter or any other communications tool, but intelligent, well-guided use of Twitter (hint, guys - talk to Nigel!) can certainly play a major part.

Poor use of Twitter will do nothing but reinforce and harden long-held negative views of the sector.

There's a mountain to climb here, with much cynicism and mistrust in the market, but climb that mountain and, boy, will you stand out.

Adrian Higgs, 03/07/2009 17:17
www.twitter.com/AdrianHiggs
www.linkedin.com/in/adrianhiggs
Katharine Robinson said...

I have recently written about a similar situation in Reading.

We are seeing companies coming along and using our local hashtag to broadcast their offers and promotions. Most notably @PavlovsDogPub. They clearly do not follow back local people that use the #rdg hashtag so have no idea that we are all irritated by them. I also suspect that they do not even check their @ mentions as we openly reference them when expressing our distaste.

It's very important for businesses to listen to the people they would like to sell to first, then engage. Once you are part of the community you are better placed to point out promotions and offers that people on twitter will genuinely be interested in.

Thanks as always for your insights.

Katharine Robinson, 06/07/2009 17:06
www.sourceress.co.uk
www.twitter.com/TheSourceress
www.linkedin.com/in/katharinerobinson
West Hampstead Estate Agent said...

We are yet to be convinced of the value of Twitter. We have local and property followers and we get a few site visits from it.

I don't think the property industry moves fast enough for this type of thing.

West Hampstead Estate Agent, 11/10/2009 02:11
www.paramountproperties.co.uk/
www.london-estate-agents.biz/
twitter.com/west_hampstead/
Adrian Higgs - B2B copywriter said...

Hi West Hampstead Estate Agent

The thing is, business use of Twitter is not merely about the immediate return of site visits. It's about developing a reputation.

The estate agency sector, deservedly or undeservedly, has a pretty atrocious reputation. Average Joe and Josephine tend to tar all agents with the same brush - trust, vital to the success of any business, is a rare commodity indeed.

I don't know West Hampstead Estate Agent so I'm not levelling any accusations, but the agent that uses Twitter, and other networking tools to develop a reputation for excellent service, hard work on behalf of their customers, transparent honesty, extreme helpfulness and willingness to engage as human beings rather than faceless companies will stand out from the crowd.

More importantly, that agent will develop relationships with potential customers and others, relationships that will foster trust. Some of those contacts will use their services. Some of them, and others, will recommend that agent to others. A network of trust will develop. And from that, long term, sustainable business will develop, reducing the agent's dependency on direct lead generation tactics.

Having taken a quick look at West Hampstead Estate Agent's Twitter profile, may I offer a couple of tips, from my own experience of using Twitter?

People engage much better with other people they don't yet know than they do with businesses they don't yet know. I'd suggest nominating a particular individual in the agency - a natural connector - as your Chief Tweeter. Show their picture in your Twitter profile, and use their name, not "west_hampstead" as the Twitter id. Immediately, you come over as vastly more human.

On the tweeting front, at present, apart from a few @replies, your tweets are almost all advertising your properties. This will quickly be seen as spam (or at the very least terminally boring) and will lose you followers. Were I following you, I would certainly unfollow you on the basis of what you're tweeting.

Instead, I'd suggest having your new Chief Tweeter adopt a multi-pronged strategy along these lines:

1. Water-cooler chat. Have them tweet about the sort of stuff that gets chatted about in the office - but with properties and services that you have for sale strictly off limits (for the moment).

2. Join in. Follow people in your local area and join in their conversations. Answer their questions, whether they have to do with your area of business or not. Be helpful.

3. Connect people. Recommend the person X talks to person Y when you see a synergy.

4. Sparingly, tweet to show your expertise. Even here, I wouldn't go for the direct "We have this property for sale" approach, but more along the lines of industry-related comment. Maybe a link to an article on the state of the property market, with your comment and asking others for their views.

5. Also sparingly, tweet your special offers - the free HIP offer would do nicely here.

The aim is to build relationships and trust. Once that starts, it becomes self-fuelling, as people who trust your Chief Tweeter will recommend that others follow him/her. And to come back to my original point, if you can build that network of trust, you'll be head and shoulders over almost every other estate agent.

Hope that's helpful. Adrian

Adrian Higgs - B2B copywriter, 12/10/2009 09:02
www.twitter.com/AdrianHiggs
Lindsay Abery said...

Totally agree with all the comments posted although I think Twitter is a minefield to start with. I have invested my own time and money with someone who has taught me the correct way to use it (and hopefully I am! although any feedback would be much appreciated!). Totally agree with Adrian what a great opportunity for an agent to take.

Keep up the good work Morgan PR and I look forward to more thought provoking articles.

Lindsay Abery, 15/10/2009 11:45
www.osceola.co.uk
www.twitter.com/lindsayaberyifa

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